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rms25thta
05-04-2009, 10:21 PM
Just wondering what the difference is between the 5.3 in my 02 Tahoe and the LS1 in my brother in laws Trans AM. Just trying to learn more about these engines. Is there a good resource online where I can study up on these motors??

Rich

JKmotorsports
05-04-2009, 10:42 PM
LS1 is an aluminum block vs the 5.3 (LM7) iron block. Accessory brackets are different. Main difference aside from the block material is the heads, cam, and intake system. The shorter runners on the LS1 intakes are tuned for higher rpm whereas the longer intake runners on the truck intakes provide more low-end torque.

blueflamed03
05-05-2009, 09:40 AM
5.3=327 cu in
LS1= 350 cu in

Timmy
05-05-2009, 12:37 PM
you got it.

Max
05-05-2009, 02:46 PM
5.3=327 cu in
LS1= 350 cu in

cubes are different, 5.3 is a 323 and the 5.7 is 346 iirc.

Yuke2K
05-05-2009, 04:00 PM
cubes are different, 5.3 is a 323 and the 5.7 is 346 iirc.

Yep, those are the correct numbers. Some websites and parts vendors refer to the 5.3 as a 325, but it's definitely not a 327.

blueflamed03
05-05-2009, 05:06 PM
I stand corrected, 325.

The Vortec 5300, or LM7/LM4/L59/L33, is a V8 truck engine. It is a stroked (by 9 mm) version of the Vortec 4800 and replaced the 5700 L31. L59 denoted a flexible fuel version, while the LM7 was the standard version of the engine.

Power output is 285-295 hp (213-220 kW) and torque is 325 lb·ft (441 N·m) to 335 lb·ft (454 N·m). Displacement is 5.3 L (5328 cc (325 cu in)) from 96.01 mm bore and 92.00 mm stroke.

blueflamed03
05-05-2009, 05:08 PM
LS1, 345.7
The LS1 shares little other than similar displacement, external dimensions, and rod bearings, with its predecessor. It is an all-aluminum 5.7 L (5,665 cc/345.7 cu in) pushrod engine and was rated between 305 - 350 hp (227 to 261 kW) and 335-375 ft·lbf (454-508 N·m) of torque in North America, depending on the application. In Australia, continuous modifications were made to the LS1 engine throughout its lifetime, reaching 382 hp (285 kW) in the HSV's YII series and a Callaway modified version, named C4B, was fitted to HSV GTS models producing 402 hp (300 kW).

shsportsfan12
05-05-2009, 05:10 PM
LS1 is an aluminum block vs the 5.3 (LM7) iron block. Accessory brackets are different. Main difference aside from the block material is the heads, cam, and intake system. The shorter runners on the LS1 intakes are tuned for higher rpm whereas the longer intake runners on the truck intakes provide more low-end torque.

If I'm not mistaken...the L33 block is aluminum? I could could be pulling that outa my ass though :shrug:

Edit: Yes it is:

L33

The L33 was an aluminum block version of the LM7, and was referred to as the Vortec 5300 HO in marketing materials. Power increased by 15 hp (11 kW), to 310 hp (230 kW), over the LM7, and torque was unchanged. It was only available on extended cab 4WD pickup trucks.

L33 applications:

* 2005-2007 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 4WD
* 2005-2007 GMC Sierra 1500 4WD

:pepper:

Here's some good info on motors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Vortec_engine#L33

blueflamed03
05-05-2009, 05:21 PM
6.0 ftw!

JKmotorsports
05-05-2009, 06:53 PM
If I'm not mistaken...the L33 block is aluminum? I could could be pulling that outa my ass though :shrug:

Edit: Yes it is:

L33

The L33 was an aluminum block version of the LM7, and was referred to as the Vortec 5300 HO in marketing materials. Power increased by 15 hp (11 kW), to 310 hp (230 kW), over the LM7, and torque was unchanged. It was only available on extended cab 4WD pickup trucks.

L33 applications:

* 2005-2007 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 4WD
* 2005-2007 GMC Sierra 1500 4WD

:pepper:

Here's some good info on motors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Vortec_engine#L33
Yes, the L33 is the aluminum version of the LM7, and the LS1 is basically an aluminum LM7 with a larger bore.

WickedGoat
05-08-2009, 11:01 PM
Just wondering what the difference is between the 5.3 in my 02 Tahoe and the LS1 in my brother in laws Trans AM. Just trying to learn more about these engines. Is there a good resource online where I can study up on these motors??

Rich

http://www.amazon.com/How-Build-High-Performance-Chevy-V-8s/dp/1884089844

I have this one and it is very informative. You should be able to get it at Barnes & Noble or any other good book store. It discusses all of the LS motors in depth from stock build to performance parts and dyno tuning.

LS1's are aluminum blocks and have specific heads and cams on them to give them the higher horsepower ratings. The LS1 in my '04 GTO has the LS6 aluminum block, LS6 intake, but LS1 heads and cam to give it 350HP and 365 TQ. A true LS6 has the LS6 heads and cam from the 02-04 C5 Z06 Corvette, which were rated at 405Hp. It goes on and on........

rms25thta
05-09-2009, 10:18 AM
Thanks, I will be getting one of these to get better knowledge of these motors.

tybardy
05-17-2009, 01:02 PM
do the LS1 heads fit on the LM7? and for that matter, can you swap over the top end parts... i.e. cam, intake, etc

Max
05-17-2009, 02:04 PM
most everything is interchangeable, lots of people putting L92 heads on their lq4/lq9/etc.

HMFDZ28
05-25-2009, 04:03 PM
Iron vs Aluminum.... Heads flow simmilar numbers but 5.3 heads have a smaller chamber CC... Same cam... different intakes... different exhaust manifolds.... different acc. pully offsets... want me to keep goin lol. In general you can interchange all of the valvetrain/heads/most rotating assembly components.

ELOOSECANNON
06-25-2009, 06:16 AM
Awesome, great info.

HMFDZ28
06-25-2009, 08:59 PM
do the LS1 heads fit on the LM7? and for that matter, can you swap over the top end parts... i.e. cam, intake, etc

Just realized I didnt address this... Yes you can