What to buy??

[spiller09]

ive got an 08 tahoe z71 with 6" pro comp lift and 35 trail grapplers with the stock z71 rims. next tuesday i will start buying performance upgrades. the first two on my list are edge performance cts and corsa sport exhaust just not sure which one to buy first. any suggestions??

[felixgun]

you might as well go with the Corsa Touring and followed by a K&N 63-3058 Air Charger Intake or Volant CAI for performance mods... THEN get the edge.. makes more sense huh?

[spiller09]

well on the intake part i was thinking more aem brute force. ill look into others. why that order? and i dont think the touring would be loud enough for me

[07Burb]

The order doesn't really matter other than doing the edge last so that you get a tune that takes into account all your other performance mods.

[spiller09]

i gotcha makes sense now thanks for the help guys.

[spiller09]

07 burb ive been thinkin about what you said and cant i just reprogram the edge each time i add a new mod?

[felixgun]

The order doesn't really matter other than doing the edge last so that you get a tune that takes into account all your other performance mods.

This was the order I was talking about. Also, the corsa touring is one of the better exhaust setups IMO.

[spiller09]

do you know if corsa just sells the muffler? i hate the tips they offer and think i wanna just do a turn down right after the muffler

[andrew383]

I would skip all that first and regear.You'll see next to nothing with those mods compaired to a regear...

[07Burb]

If he gets a tune he'll 'see next to nothing' unless he regears??? That's the exact opposite of what I've ever heard from other folks who've gotten Blackbear tunes! :shrug:

[AquinoSteven]

I would skip all that first and regear.You'll see next to nothing with those mods compaired to a regear...

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[07Burb]

Why is a regear necessary for a blackbear tune to work effectively? I've never heard of needing to this before and most everyone I've heard have notice huge gains with the tune without needing to regear....

[AquinoSteven]

Why is a regear necessary for a blackbear tune to work effectively? I've never heard of needing to this before and most everyone I've heard have notice huge gains with the tune without needing to regear....

We arent sayin its necessary but it will net more power then the tune alone. Running 35s is borderline with 4.10s. Now with 4.56s it puts you in a better range of power to get the tires rollin. Now gears and a tune will be even better.

[07Burb]

We arent sayin its necessary but it will net more power then the tune alone. Running 35s is borderline with 4.10s. Now with 4.56s it puts you in a better range of power to get the tires rollin. Now gears and a tune will be even better.

I don't disagree with that at all and that makes sense but it was said in a previous post that "I would skip all that first and regear.You'll see next to nothing with those mods compaired to a regear" as in the BB tune would essentially be a waste of money without a regear and I completely disagree with that. Yes, regearing is always a good mod especially if you've got a lifted truck or if the gears you've currently got pretty poor ratio (i.e. 3.23's) but if it came with 3.73's (for instance) and he's not lifted then regearing is more up to personal taste IMO and by no means is a BB tune a waste of money JUST because the OP hasn't regeared.

With that said, the CAI, Exhaust and stuff like that won't necessarily give you huge gains (especially on a largely stock motor) but are good pieces to the puzzle when done in conjunction with other mods such as a tune. But by themselves could indeed be considered a "waste of money" by some.

[andrew383]

If he has 3.23's and 35's with a tune,the same truck with 4.56 gears will be alot faster with gears alone...

But he prob does have 3.73 gears since its a z71..
After a gear swap you would need a retune for the gear change anyways so i guess your just reading into it more...Plus he said he was thinkin about an edge tuner so yes gears would gain more than what was listed :bleh:

I had 285/70/17's on my silverado and it was a turd with 3.73's i cant imagine 35's lol

[07Burb]

If he has 3.23's and 35's with a tune,the same truck with 4.56 gears will be alot faster with gears alone...

But he prob does have 3.73 gears since its a z71..
After a gear swap you would need a retune for the gear change anyways so i guess your just reading into it more...Plus he said he was thinkin about an edge tuner so yes gears would gain more than what was listed :bleh:

I had 285/70/17's on my silverado and it was a turd with 3.73's i cant imagine 35's lol

:lol: I'd forgotten that he stated thinking about an Edge tune!! :) Did you have a tune on your Silverado and was it the 5.3 or 4.8 motor? If it was the 4.8 you might as well just save your breath unless it's a RCSB. That 4.8 is a snail. :whymewhyme:

I think a lot of the reason that these GM trucks and SUVs don't have much get up and go stock off the "showroom floor" is that dang Fuel Management system. It really drains your acceleration cuz it's spending it's time trying to make sure you get the best MPG you can. Well, sometimes you just don't care about that and you wanna get moving down the road. With a good tune that junk is wiped off there and therefore wakes it up considerable not to mention the other mods that are done to the computer to kick up the performance.

This has turned into a great discussion :waytogo: I'm likin' it :)

[andrew383]

It had a 5.3 in it and yes it was tuned... :)

[spiller09]

so with all that said should i regear to 4.88 f/r and then get the edge programmer? yall seem to know alot about this! thanks for the help guys

[andrew383]

lol A better choice would be getting a custom tune from Justin - Black Bear...
Ive you dead set on the handheld programmer then go with the diablo sport...

[07Burb]

X2 what Andrew said! Definitely better options out there over Edge.

[spiller09]

well guys i just bough the edge, im gonna wait off on the gears for right now but it should be here around thursday ill let you know how it is when i get it installed thanks for the help

[07Burb]

:popcorn:

[andrew383]

well guys i just bough the edge, im gonna wait off on the gears for right now but it should be here around thursday ill let you know how it is when i get it installed thanks for the help

Sorry to hear that lol

[spiller09]

lol i hope i dont regret it!

[07Burb]

:D we're all waiting to find out :popcorn:

[spiller09]

lol if its not what i want im gonna def get a bb tune and a cam

[andrew383]

Go ahead and order your new cam then lol

[07Burb]

:lol: I can see Andrew isn't real optimistic:)

[spiller09]

well guys its installed! im not gonna say i love it but im not gonna say i hate it. it def made the shifts firmer and it feels like its got a little more get up and go but just not the performance i was looking for.:banghead:

[andrew383]

well guys its installed! im not gonna say i love it but im not gonna say i hate it. it def made the shifts firmer and it feels like its got a little more get up and go but just not the performance i was looking for.:banghead:

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:bleh:
Just tell um it didnt work when you return it :gr_grin:

[07Burb]

So what's next then?

[spiller09]

lol ive got a guy at work who said he will buy it for the exact price i payed, and probably the corsa exhaust. or blackbear lol

[demonal]

if you do get the exhaust.. corsa sport for sure.. I love mine!

[spiller09]

def!! 07 burb said get the touring but im looking for a more meaner sound. its expensive but you get what ya pay for

[andrew383]

If you EVER plan on doing headers without cats get the touring..The sport without cats is way to loud IMO

Here is the old tbss with a 3" catless y-pipe for sound reference :)
Here is the sport
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee313/andrew383/vidoes/th_MOV00642.jpg (http://s230.photobucket.com/albums/ee313/andrew383/vidoes/?action=view&current=MOV00642.flv)
5x8x22 magnaflow
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee313/andrew383/vidoes/th_MOV01129.jpg (http://s230.photobucket.com/albums/ee313/andrew383/vidoes/?action=view&current=MOV01129.mp4)

[spiller09]

they both sound great and yes the sport with headers is too loud its got too much popping in it. i doubt ill do headers anyway.