View Full Version : Tahoe HID retrofit w/ Depo headlight & Lexus RX-AFS/TSX-R projectors...
Physh1
02-11-2011, 11:46 PM
So here is my retrofit project...this is long...lots of pics...
It was DenaiAK's retro write-up t that got me interested in a similar retro for 00-06 Tahoes...I didn't want an out-of-the-box solution. This projects ran me $500 for everything part wise. Besides the Depo headlights & the retrofit parts listed below I had to buy epoxy, silicone, & a piece of flat aluminum bar for fabbing the support brackets.
I probably overbuilt them & it took about 14 hours to do the whole project over a few weeks. I did a little work here & there when I had time but most of the delays were because of epoxy curing & silicone curing.
I started with Depo projector housings for 00-06 Tahoes & after looking around a little, asking some questions, & doing lots of Google searching I decided on a Lexus RX-AFS/TSX-R projector.
Really, before I started this job, I only knew that the Depo projector headlights fit without modifying the supports or washer fluid reservoir & the Lexus RX-AFS/TSX-R projector were not quite a deep.
Now...on with the pictures...
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Got my HID retro parts from Matt @ retrofitsource.com...
Phase I...basic projector prep & equipment info...
Here is my collection of goodies...
1x Pair: Lexus RX-AFS/TSX-R low beam projectors
1x Pair: Clear optic lenses
1x Pair: New Matsus h i ta Gen IV ballasts w/ brackets
1x Pair: Morimoto 3Five 5000K D2S bulbs
1x Pc: 9006 relay wire harness
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0454.jpg
Close up shot of the opaque stock Lexus RX-AFS/TSX-R optics...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0455.jpg
Another shot of the stock optics...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0456.jpg
Stock optics removed...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0457.jpg
Clear optic lens sitting in the housing. This lens is slightly smaller in diameter & requires a compression ring to keep the lens centered & secure...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0458.jpg
Clear lens fully installed...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0459.jpg
Stock driver side Depo "donor" headlight front...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0460.jpg
Stock driver side Depo "donor" headlight back...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0461.jpg
Mounting bracket removed...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0462.jpg
The Depo projector is siliconed in place. I'll need to heat the area up with a heat gun to soften the silicone enough for safe removal. Once that is done I can start test fitting, trimming, & modding the housing to cleanly accept the Lexus RX-AFS/TSX-R low beam projector.
Physh1
02-11-2011, 11:50 PM
Phase II - Lexus Projector Install...passenger headlight...
I did NOT bake these headlights to remove the headlight lens! I did all this work from the back of the headlight. You could bake them & make access to the shroud easier & gluing easier but I chose to proceed this way.
So far I have 2.5 hours of work into this headlight...drying time not included.
Here's the Depo housing after removing the projector...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0471.jpg
Depo projector on LEFT & Lexus RX-AFS/TSX-R projector on RIGHT...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0465.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0464.jpg
My collection of silicones & epoxy...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0472.jpg
The shroud in the Depo's is actually clipped onto the Depo projector so when I removed the Depo projector the shroud moved around. I used the epoxy to secure the shroud to the housing in 2 places. After I used a clear silicone fill the gaps & keep dust from getting in the housing.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0474.jpg
Here you can see a few spots I had to clearance with my Dremel to fit the Lexus RX-AFS/TSX-R projector...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0475.jpg
After a little fiddling, trimming, & lots of patience I got the Lexus RX-AFS/TSX-R projector centered in the shroud & stable. At this point I used the black silicone & used it on 5 spots to hold in in place. Once this dries & it's safer to handle I'll fill the rest of the gaps & do any final adjustments.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0476.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0477.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0478.jpg
After I let the silicone set for 3 hours I could handle it a little...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0479.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0480.jpg
Finishing filling in the gaps & gluing the projector in place...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0484.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0485.jpg
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Phase III - Bracket re-install...passenger headlight...
Now with the Lexus projector installed & fully cured I need to trim the Depo mouting bracket so it will clear the Lexus projector. This basically meant installing & uninstalling multiple times for clearance & fit. I didn't want any part of the bracket any closer than 1/4"
Here is the Depo mounting bracket on the housing & the arrow is pointing to the support I must trim to clear the projector...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0487.jpg
Closer shot of the clearance issue...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0488.jpg
Support bracket trimmed, cleared, & fully bolted back into place...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0489.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0490.jpg
5k bulb & ballast installed & connected. No clearance issues here...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0491.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0492.jpg
So far everything looks great. Next step will be adding a support leg to the support bracket I modified. Originally the support bracket was held in place by 4 screws (2 on the headlight housing & 2 on the Depo projector). Once a little support is fabbed this headlight is done & ready to be installed.
Total time on retro on this headlight (minus drying time) is ~5 hours...
Physh1
02-11-2011, 11:52 PM
Phase IV - Fab up supports & mounting tabs...passenger headlight...
Total time on retro on this headlight (minus drying time) is ~7 hours...
2 supports fabbed & installed. White arrow support tab bolting projector to housing (2 screws). Pink arrow is support bracket to replace the original mounting bracket which I had to cut in order to fit the projector (one end bolted...one end epoxied)...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0497.jpg
Just another shot of the support tab & support bracket...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0498.jpg
This headlight is done, finished, completed, etc...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0499.jpg
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Phase V - Complete driver side build...
Total time on retro on this headlight (minus drying time) is ~3 hours...got this one does a lot quicker now that I know what I'm doing :D
No need to go over all the little stuff again. For the most part, the driver side build is the same EXCEPT for the needed trimming on the housing & the additional support...
Here is the main spot for clearancing on the driver side headlight...it's the support post for the adjusting bracket...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0522.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0523.jpg
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Bracket trimming & clearancing is basically the same on both headlights. Here are the two headlights...completed passenger above & almost completed driver below...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0525.jpg
Fabbing the new supports is different on the driver headlight. 2 supports...one for the adjusting bracket & one to support the projector...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0526.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0528.jpg
Both headlights completely done...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0529.jpg
Physh1
02-12-2011, 12:01 AM
Phase VI - Installation :D...
Ballast mounting worked out really well. No trimming needed & routing the harness was straightforward.
The retrofitted Depo headlights are no deeper than the Depo was prior to the job. I didn't remove the rubber behind the headlights, didn't need to modify the washer fluid reservoir, & again no trimming was needed on any of the radiator support or the headlight support panels.
Relay mounting for HID harness...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0547.jpg
Passenger side ballast mounting...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0548.jpg
Driver side ballast mounting...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0549.jpg
Stock lighting...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0550.jpg
HID lighting...not totally aligned correct yet...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0551.jpg
Driver side headlight...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0552.jpg
Blue/purple cut-off...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0554.jpg
Light on garage door...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0558.jpg
Purple/blue cut-off...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0559.jpg
Lights 4 feet away from a Honda...
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee210/Physh1/Tahoe/IMAG0560.jpg
All done...
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My overall impression of this retro so far is that the light quality is amazing. With 14 hours of work over a few weeks into these it was going to suck if heat was going to be a problem. After driving around with them for a few hours the housing were a little warmer than the outside temp.
So far I'm thrilled with the results...I do wish I tested the stock Depo projector with a DDM or similar setup just for comparison but oh well. I think the Depo projector out of the box would give some excellent results but the cut-off, quality, & experience I had doing a true retrofit was totally worth it.
Cameron
waxworkz
02-12-2011, 01:47 AM
fu-king amazing. nice job man. now i know what i have to do to my depos when i get them
DenaliAK
02-12-2011, 01:57 AM
Awesome job. You put some time into it.
The cutoff is sick...nice and sharp, great color.
Good job!! Now streamline the process and you could charge guys on here to do it for them....
;)
Looks good. Why is there a shadow of light above the cutoff in the one pic? Where did you get your Depos from? If you got them off eBay, which seller?
01Konvict
02-12-2011, 03:56 AM
diggin the retrofit, I just completed one on my accord. I used Morimoto mini h1s for the ease of installation. Going with a good projector is key. I think I may have to go retro my yukon.
DenaliAK
02-12-2011, 05:34 AM
diggin the retrofit, I just completed one on my accord. I used Morimoto mini h1s for the ease of installation. Going with a good projector is key. I think I may have to go retro my yukon.
Those Morimoto Mini's are pretty slick little projectors.
killer20072001
02-12-2011, 08:45 AM
SWEEET write up. A Mod should sticky this ASAP.
Physh1
02-12-2011, 10:54 AM
Looks good. Why is there a shadow of light above the cutoff in the one pic? Where did you get your Depos from? If you got them off eBay, which seller?Not sure which pic you are asking about but 1 pic has them aligned at 10 feet. Everything looked good until I drove around. The driver side headlight was aimed too low (the high line on the driver side & the low line on the passenger side weren't lined up...therefore a shadow on the cut-off. I realigned them @ 25 feet & fine tuned the adjustment @ 50 feet. No problems now...
Another pic I had taken after my alignment was correct & I was sitting on a steep driveway. There was light reflecting off the ground back onto the garage door above the cut-off line.
I got my Depo's off of Amazon...seller is Depo...
Cameron
gdddup
02-12-2011, 11:22 AM
looks great
Not sure which pic you are asking about but 1 pic has them aligned at 10 feet. Everything looked good until I drove around. The driver side headlight was aimed too low (the high line on the driver side & the low line on the passenger side weren't lined up...therefore a shadow on the cut-off. I realigned them @ 25 feet & fine tuned the adjustment @ 50 feet. No problems now...
Another pic I had taken after my alignment was correct & I was sitting on a steep driveway. There was light reflecting off the ground back onto the garage door above the cut-off line.
I got my Depo's off of Amazon...seller is Depo...
Cameron
Looks awesome man, makes sense now. I have the DDM 55w 5000k kit right now. I'm going to order Depos and see how the cutoff and output is. If I do decide to do a true retro fit would you be interested in doing it for me if I supplied the parts and obviously paid you?
That's if the output and cutoff on the stock Depo projectors is terrible which judging by pics is not.
Rivieraracing
02-12-2011, 03:00 PM
Killer fab skills and great write-up!! You and denaliak are some creative suckas!!
Tahoewhat
02-12-2011, 04:00 PM
very nice write up and fab work. Very good skills. You know im keeping this thread saved for reference. From your before and after it looks 100x better w/ the tsx projectors.
Physh1
02-12-2011, 08:44 PM
Looks awesome man, makes sense now. I have the DDM 55w 5000k kit right now. I'm going to order Depos and see how the cutoff and output is. If I do decide to do a true retro fit would you be interested in doing it for me if I supplied the parts and obviously paid you?
That's if the output and cutoff on the stock Depo projectors is terrible which judging by pics is not.I would definitely do it. I'd have to figure a price but I'd do it.
I really do think the stock Depo projector would be good BUT you're just kinda stuck with aftermarket kits which are so-so in overall quality. Bulb construction especially...just my .02 worth. The Depo's are a very nice projector out of the box...
Cameron
I would definitely do it. I'd have to figure a price but I'd do it.
I really do think the stock Depo projector would be good BUT you're just kinda stuck with aftermarket kits which are so-so in overall quality. Bulb construction especially...just my .02 worth. The Depo's are a very nice projector out of the box...
Cameron
I have APC headlights now and I am not happy with them output and cutoff wise. I'll post pics comparing the two.
How is the wiggle on your Depos? Were you able to fix that at all?
Physh1
02-13-2011, 12:21 AM
I have almost no wiggle. I'm trying to locate where it's coming from so when I find my solution I'll post it up...
Cameron
westcoast
02-13-2011, 12:30 AM
awesome post Cam!
Tahoewhat
02-13-2011, 12:41 AM
I would definitely do it. I'd have to figure a price but I'd do it.
Cameron
Let me know if you do decide to do this.
My Depo headlights and Sonar LED tails should be here tomorrow.
Any updates getting rid of the wiggle?
Physh1
02-14-2011, 11:41 PM
It's raining here right now...not so keen on pulling everything apart. I'll work on things this weekend & I'll update...
Cameron
It's raining here right now...not so keen on pulling everything apart. I'll work on things this weekend & I'll update...
Cameron
Sounds good. Supposed to rain here off an on Wed till Sat. :emotions122:
Got my Depos installed without issue. My passenger side one is rock solid. My driver one has the wiggle. I figured out it's the white insert on the outside adjustment that is causing it. No idea how to fix it.
01tahoenjn
02-19-2011, 11:02 PM
mad props man thanks for the great write up ill skip halos hids and leds and save up for this mod... looks great man
Midgetclown
04-18-2011, 06:17 PM
Amzing write up man. I did a write up a while back from my 93 chevy stepside on a different forum. Also i used acura tsx projectors from theretrofitsource. Its such a difference seeing how its done with a NBS cus when i did mine i couldnt use any of the factory mounting bracket, i had to completely fab a new one and that was the most time consuming thing of all. If i didnt have such an aggrivating experience with that one id do the same to the hoe.
01tahoenjn
04-19-2011, 03:12 PM
are the tsx's that much better than the morimoto mini h1's?
by the looks of it on youtube there pretty freeking close..also i WAS going to get depos and retro them but im probably gonna get a clear set of drls and headlights off ebay and pop minis in.. they fit right into the 9005/9006 fittings ...then ill get a nice size shroud and trim trim trim..thoguhts? i dont think its worth the 130 to tear apart the depos ...just my .02cents
Midgetclown
04-19-2011, 08:54 PM
Im not sure about the comparison of these to be honest. I bought these because the site i got them from was highly recommended by alot of people. I dont think it really matters if you get depos or not because your replacing all the functioning parts of the depos with the retro so i guess you just do it in whatever headlight houssings you like the most. Im sure someone else with more knowledge could chime in but thats my opinion on it.
DenaliAK
04-19-2011, 09:00 PM
The only reason to go with DEPO's over others is that if you have to, you can bake them apart because they use a soft silicon type sealant. Many of the other aftermarket housings are perma-sealed with some sort of epoxy. You can't get them apart short of cutting your way through.
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