View Full Version : 2dr 4x4 lowerd anyone????
clean454
06-23-2009, 03:54 PM
i have a 95 2dr 4x4 and i want it a few inches lower nothing to dramatic... anyone ever done it and how?!
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if i did a axle flip kit in the rear, would it sit to low and id have to change the control arms in the front? if i get the 2-3 tortion keys
Whippled2dr
06-23-2009, 04:16 PM
In the front you can use drop torsion keys to get 1"-3" adjustable. For the rear you can use a flip kit (will probably drop it 5"-6"), 3.5" drop leafs (mine dropped me 4.5"), or modify a 4dr tahoe shackle/hanger kit.
I didn't like the load capacity of the belltech drop leafs so I modified a DJM 4dr tahoe shackle hanger kit. It got me 4" drop and I can use my stock leafs. IMO it rides much better now than with the drop leafs.
I used the upper holes of the drop shackle and the barely cleared the fill hose. They have been on for a couple of months now and have had no issues.
First, I unscrewed the stock bolt holding on the driver's side hook in the back cargo area and replaced it with a M10 x 65mm 1.5 pitch bolt. I then used one of these clamps
http://www.fittingsandadapters.com/galsteelvind1.html
and put it around the vent tube next to the filler hose. I tightened it up with a M10 locknut until it lifted the hose up enough to barely clear the shackle.
I can't remember exactly but i believe two new holes were drilled into the frame and one new hole in the hanger (for each side). Then you had to massage the cabin floor a little to clear the hanger. The hardest part about this swap was getting the rivets out, what a pain.
Pics:
Shackles
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/99bluetahoe/Tahoe/Drop/IMG_0051.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/99bluetahoe/Tahoe/Drop/IMG_0043.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/99bluetahoe/Tahoe/Drop/IMG_0044.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/99bluetahoe/Tahoe/Drop/IMG_0045.jpg
Drop Hangers
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/99bluetahoe/Tahoe/Drop/IMG_0046.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/99bluetahoe/Tahoe/Drop/IMG_0048.jpg
clean454
06-23-2009, 04:31 PM
thanks whippled this is some good info, i still tow with mine and i want a good strong leaf, so u just changed your keys for the front, and that's it? which keys did u use?
Whippled2dr
06-23-2009, 05:27 PM
Belltech keys. They came in their kit for the 2dr tahoes but you can buy them seperately. I'm also using Belltech's Street Performace shocks which I like the best out of all that I've tried.
Belltech keys part# 3920
I have the torsion bar unloading tool so it made the job easier. The only problem I had was one of the torsion bars would budge (slide out of the key). Besides that, it was very easy and straight forward. Also I started out by using belltech's short bump stops for the front but decided to put the stock ones back in (trimmed a little bit though). I read that the bump stops on our trucks are part of the suspension, they somehow help with the spring rate of the torsion bars. They have to be kissing the stock bumpstops a little. It rides much better now.
Just look at how the stock stops are on you stock height truck. They are probably touching your lower control arms.
clean454
06-23-2009, 05:38 PM
thanks did u get the keys online?
Whippled2dr
06-23-2009, 05:45 PM
You can get the keys on summit racing or any other belltech dealer.
clean454
06-23-2009, 07:10 PM
You can get the keys on summit racing or any other belltech dealer.
les schwab had them instock... got them i dont think they were the exact same as the ones u told me but they got the job done! and they came out pretty easy
clean454
06-23-2009, 07:12 PM
is there a good was to drop the back with out having to swap out the leaf springs? can i just change the shackles or something? im trying not to go super exspensive, cuz im a addict i wont stop when it comes to my vehicles lol
Whippled2dr
06-23-2009, 09:49 PM
is there a good was to drop the back with out having to swap out the leaf springs? can i just change the shackles or something? im trying not to go super exspensive, cuz im a addict i wont stop when it comes to my vehicles lol
If you want you can just do shackles and see if its enough drop. They are cheap and easy to do.
These are the ones on mine and will fit for sure doing the modification i mentioned above with the fuel filler hose.
http://www.stylintrucks.com/part.aspx?category|category_root|-30=Suspension&category|cat_-30|373=Lowering+Parts&canned_results_trigger=&partfamilyid=5310&partid=12822
clean454
06-23-2009, 09:54 PM
If you want you can just do shackles and see if its enough drop. They are cheap and easy to do.
These are the ones on mine and will fit for sure doing the modification i mentioned above with the fuel filler hose.
http://www.stylintrucks.com/part.aspx?category|category_root|-30=Suspension&category|cat_-30|373=Lowering+Parts&canned_results_trigger=&partfamilyid=5310&partid=12822
so these till just bolt up? or im gunna have to do the same modification you did? and they will give me about 2 inches... the front dropped quite a bit...
Whippled2dr
06-23-2009, 10:38 PM
so these till just bolt up? or im gunna have to do the same modification you did? and they will give me about 2 inches... the front dropped quite a bit...
They bolt right up using the stock bolts but you'll need to pull up the fuel filler hose or else the shackle will hit it.
Here is a pic of my truck with the keys and drop leafs.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/99bluetahoe/Tahoe/Drop/Whippled2dr.jpg
Here is a pic with titan wheels. Again with the rear leafs. When I changed over to the shackle/hanger drop, the rear was 3/4" higher than with the leafs.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/99bluetahoe/new_wheels1.jpg
clean454
06-23-2009, 10:48 PM
so that was just adding the shackles? to top one, thats what i want mine to looklike, i ordered the shackles hopefully i get them by the weekend, i will get pics up asap, when i get them thanks for all ur help whipple!
Whippled2dr
06-23-2009, 11:03 PM
so that was just adding the shackles? to top one, thats what i want mine to looklike, i ordered the shackles hopefully i get them by the weekend, i will get pics up asap, when i get them thanks for all ur help whipple!
No. The above pics are with the drop leafs (which gave me a 4.5" drop). The shackles alone should only give you a 2" drop. If your front is too low you can crank up the keys and lift the front a little.
Also for reference the tires above are 28.25" in diameter.
This is what the drop leafs look like. You won't be able to tow with these unless you use some type of helper bags or something. Not my truck.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/99bluetahoe/Tahoe/Drop/16f04134.jpg
clean454
06-23-2009, 11:22 PM
im prolly not going to do the extra 4.5 lower like u showed earlier, ill prolly just install the 2in shackle for now, i should be able to tow with just installing the shackle rite?
Whippled2dr
06-23-2009, 11:41 PM
You shouldn't have a problem.
clean454
06-23-2009, 11:51 PM
alright sounds good thanks for all ur help!!!
Whippled2dr
06-24-2009, 12:01 AM
No problem man.
clean454
06-24-2009, 12:20 AM
haha i kno im prolly a pain in the ass!!! but what if i got the flip kit?!?! and didnt mess with the shackles or hangers?!
http://www.stylintrucks.com/parts.aspx?category|category_root|-30=Suspension&category|cat_-30|373=Lowering+Parts&partfamilyid=3326
Whippled2dr
06-24-2009, 02:33 PM
haha i kno im prolly a pain in the ass!!! but what if i got the flip kit?!?! and didnt mess with the shackles or hangers?!
http://www.stylintrucks.com/parts.aspx?category|category_root|-30=Suspension&category|cat_-30|373=Lowering+Parts&partfamilyid=3326
Here is the flip kit for a 2wd 2dr tahoe (not 100% sure if the hangers are the same between the 2wds and 4wds).
http://www.stylintrucks.com/part.aspx?category|category_root|-30=Suspension&category|cat_-30|373=Lowering+Parts&canned_results_trigger=&partfamilyid=3339&partid=12841
Instructions
http://www.stylintrucks.com/images/UploadedImages/instructions/FK10292D.pdf
I believe this kit uses some sort of lifting hanger to bring it up to 4" or the flip kit would drop it lower. Im not an expert on these thing so maybe someone else will chime in.
Here's belltech's flip kit. This one drops a 2wd 2dr 5.5".
http://www.stylintrucks.com/part.aspx?category|category_root|-30=Suspension&category|cat_-30|373=Lowering+Parts&attribute_value_string|Brand=Belltech&canned_results_trigger=&partfamilyid=3338&partid=19432
This one looks like it uses some type of lifting hanger too.
http://www.stylintrucks.com/images/UploadedImages/instructions/6640BLT.pdf
clean454
06-24-2009, 04:34 PM
wow that looks like a bit of work, i think im gunna try the shackels and if that itsnt low enought i will prolly do what u did i like it better but im going to have to add some helper bags, thanks again for your help and i will let u kno what i do and add pic... thanks again for your help
NORCAL SS
06-30-2009, 02:16 PM
i sell the djm kits for rear that will help you out perfectly and save you $$$
bowtiefreak
07-01-2009, 05:44 PM
have you considered the opposite? Put it up a few inches. Remember, fat chicks can't jump.
OKLAGMCRUISER
07-01-2009, 05:50 PM
have you considered the opposite? Put it up a few inches. Remember, fat chicks can't jump.
on the contrary fat chicks make it rail...save the whales....harpoon a fat chick.
bowtiefreak
07-01-2009, 05:59 PM
there's an idea.
clean454
07-01-2009, 06:00 PM
i already have it covered!
bowtiefreak
07-01-2009, 06:06 PM
Haha.
roadrageror
07-01-2009, 06:15 PM
i already have it covered! nice!! Lol!
clean454
07-08-2009, 01:29 PM
finally received my drop spindles i guess 2 in the rear wasn't low enough but it looks better then stock!!
Boost infection
09-03-2009, 03:52 PM
Whippled2Dr
Sp when ordering this kit get the one for a 4door tahoe 2wd version?
Mine is a 4x4 just like yours
Whippled2dr
09-03-2009, 05:31 PM
Whippled2Dr
Sp when ordering this kit get the one for a 4door tahoe 2wd version?
Mine is a 4x4 just like yours
I believe the 2wd and 4wd 4dr tahoes have the same rear suspension so it shouldn't matter.
96ProCompTahoe
09-03-2009, 09:42 PM
i already have it covered!
That is a great idea!!!
Boost infection
09-03-2009, 10:30 PM
I believe the 2wd and 4wd 4dr tahoes have the same rear suspension so it shouldn't matter.
Thanks alot.
Boost infection
10-03-2009, 11:42 PM
Belltech keys. They came in their kit for the 2dr tahoes but you can buy them seperately. I'm also using Belltech's Street Performace shocks which I like the best out of all that I've tried.
Belltech keys part# 3920
I have the torsion bar unloading tool so it made the job easier. The only problem I had was one of the torsion bars would budge (slide out of the key). Besides that, it was very easy and straight forward. Also I started out by using belltech's short bump stops for the front but decided to put the stock ones back in (trimmed a little bit though). I read that the bump stops on our trucks are part of the suspension, they somehow help with the spring rate of the torsion bars. They have to be kissing the stock bumpstops a little. It rides much better now.
Just look at how the stock stops are on you stock height truck. They are probably touching your lower control arms.
I looking to do the same. I wanted if I can use torsion keys with drop springs. I want to get the best performance ride from my truck.
TOWRIGG
02-14-2010, 03:05 PM
whippled 2dr. can you please tell me what you modified on the 4dr shackle/hanger kit to make it fit your 2dr.? i think thats what im gonna go with...im having a hard time finding a bolt on kit for my 94 yukon gt....
In the front you can use drop torsion keys to get 1"-3" adjustable. For the rear you can use a flip kit (will probably drop it 5"-6"), 3.5" drop leafs (mine dropped me 4.5"), or modify a 4dr tahoe shackle/hanger kit.
I didn't like the load capacity of the belltech drop leafs so I modified a DJM 4dr tahoe shackle hanger kit. It got me 4" drop and I can use my stock leafs. IMO it rides much better now than with the drop leafs.
I used the upper holes of the drop shackle and the barely cleared the fill hose. They have been on for a couple of months now and have had no issues.
First, I unscrewed the stock bolt holding on the driver's side hook in the back cargo area and replaced it with a M10 x 65mm 1.5 pitch bolt. I then used one of these clamps
http://www.fittingsandadapters.com/galsteelvind1.html
and put it around the vent tube next to the filler hose. I tightened it up with a M10 locknut until it lifted the hose up enough to barely clear the shackle.
I can't remember exactly but i believe two new holes were drilled into the frame and one new hole in the hanger (for each side). Then you had to massage the cabin floor a little to clear the hanger. The hardest part about this swap was getting the rivets out, what a pain.
Pics:
Shackles
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/99bluetahoe/Tahoe/Drop/IMG_0051.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/99bluetahoe/Tahoe/Drop/IMG_0043.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/99bluetahoe/Tahoe/Drop/IMG_0044.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/99bluetahoe/Tahoe/Drop/IMG_0045.jpg
Drop Hangers
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/99bluetahoe/Tahoe/Drop/IMG_0046.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/99bluetahoe/Tahoe/Drop/IMG_0048.jpg
well I changed the bolt, put the bracket and sucked mine up like yours. The big filler hose is touching the bottom of the cab. However by measuring it doesnt seem like theres gonna be enough clearance.
you do anything else to clear these?...is your hose mashed any?
does yours rub the hose?....can you get your finger between the hose shackle?
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my before pics
as you can see my hose appears to be as high as I can get it....right to the floor
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m7/y2kz71/1999%20Tahoe/th_102_1194.jpg (http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m7/y2kz71/1999%20Tahoe/102_1194.jpg)
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m7/y2kz71/1999%20Tahoe/th_102_1189.jpg (http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m7/y2kz71/1999%20Tahoe/102_1189.jpg)
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m7/y2kz71/1999%20Tahoe/th_102_1195.jpg (http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m7/y2kz71/1999%20Tahoe/102_1195.jpg)
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m7/y2kz71/1999%20Tahoe/th_102_1190.jpg (http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m7/y2kz71/1999%20Tahoe/102_1190.jpg)
Whippled2dr
11-01-2011, 12:18 PM
I didn't do anything else to tuck it up there. Its up as far as it will go touching the cab and there is at least 1/4 inch clearance on mine.
custom97
11-01-2011, 01:11 PM
I didn't do anything else to tuck it up there. Its up as far as it will go touching the cab and there is at least 1/4 inch clearance on mine.
Do you have better pics of the modification of the 4dr hangers you used?
Whippled2dr
11-01-2011, 01:30 PM
I try to get some in a week or so. Don't have the truck with me.
I believe the top two holes of the hangers matched the original hanger holes. For the bottom hole closer to the front of the truck, a new hole was drilled into the frame but used the DJM hanger hole as reference. The last bottom bolt hole of the hanger was a new hole drilled through the frame and hanger. Also the cab bottom/top (whatever you want to call it), where the leaf spring will bolt near, will need to be massaged a little with a hammer to make space.
One problem by using these hangers and doing the above method was that the rear axle came forward a little and there might be driveshaft length issues (yoke will slide into the transfer case a little). Mine was fine since I had enough slack.
TurboBu
12-20-2011, 12:05 PM
make sure to pull the rear drive shaft, set the rear u-joint yoke straight up and measure the angle in degrees of the rear yoke and the transmission/transfercase and after lowering make sure the difference betwwen those two is the same. If they are different add wedge shims between the leaf spring and axle.
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I almost started my own thread looking for the same setup. Is there a complete kit to lower 2dr 4x4 2-4 inches level and maintain factory or better ride quality and still be able to tow? What is the best for the $$$ alamode?
Spade
02-02-2012, 09:28 PM
suscribed
moviewithnotitle
03-13-2012, 01:34 PM
Is there a complete kit to lower 2dr 4x4 2-4 inches level and maintain factory or better ride quality and still be able to tow? What is the best for the $$$ alamode?
The towing issue is the 1 single reason I have not looked into lowering my Tahoe. I absolutely need the full 5000lb tow capacity.
Thoughts anyone?
NORCAL SS
03-13-2012, 04:15 PM
The towing issue is the 1 single reason I have not looked into lowering my Tahoe. I absolutely need the full 5000lb tow capacity.
Thoughts anyone?
on my customers truck that tow i do the 2/3 kit wiht new shocks no issues with towing
moviewithnotitle
03-13-2012, 04:32 PM
on my customers truck that tow i do the 2/3 kit wiht new shocks no issues with towing
So it retains the stock capacity? If so, That's good info Norcal, thanks.
_Dylan_
03-15-2012, 01:24 PM
So it retains the stock capacity? If so, That's good info Norcal, thanks.
Investing in a cheap air bag kit for towing wouldn't be a bad idea. You can pump it up for heavy loads.
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