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How does this rear assembly part that the studs thread into come off the axle?? One of my studs has stripped out
Thanks in advance
BOSS
Some call it the circular lug plate? Is it pressed into the bearing????
Lately I've had nothing but a bunch of questions/problems for this board....sorry
BOSS
chistoso
05-30-2009, 04:57 PM
It's the entire axle shaft right? Why do you want to remove it? Is it to replace lug studs?
HMFDZ28
05-30-2009, 05:00 PM
The lugs are pressed into the hub... you can hit the old one out with a hammer. To get the new one in just take the lug and slide it in... take a few washers, gease them and the threads of the new lug. Stack the washers and then using the lug nut tighten the lug till it sits flush with the back of the back of the hub plate.
It's the entire axle shaft right? Why do you want to remove it? Is it to replace lug studs?
One of my studs stripped out inside the stud plate....now it just fucking rotates...gotta replace it for a new one
I was thinking this was the part I could get to replace them?
http://www.ezaccessory.com/Wheel_Adapter_6_Lug_5_5_To_6_Lug_5_5_p/6550-6550c.htm
BOSS
HMFDZ28
05-30-2009, 05:01 PM
If you have to pull the Axle out then you need to open up the diff carrier and pull the C-clip off to be able to slide the axle out.
The lugs are pressed into the hub... you can hit the old one out with a hammer. To get the new one in just take the lug and slide it in... take a few washers, gease them and the threads of the new lug. Stack the washers and then using the lug nut tighten the lug till it sits flush with the back of the back of the hub plate.
I got the new studs in....I pulled them in with a lug nut and one of them stripped the fuck out on me inside the stud plate
BOSS
HMFDZ28
05-30-2009, 05:02 PM
One of my studs stripped out inside the stud plate....now it just fucking rotates...gotta replace it for a new one
I was thinking this was the part I could get to replace them?
http://www.ezaccessory.com/Wheel_Adapter_6_Lug_5_5_To_6_Lug_5_5_p/6550-6550c.htm
BOSS
Thats a spacer... that will not cure your problem. Just change the stud.
Am I explaining this right? I'm not the most mechanically inclined
B
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Thats a spacer... that will not cure your problem. Just change the stud.
I did replace the stud, it's stripped out....i pulled it in with a nut and it stripped...and now it's fuckng stuck LOL
BOSS
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Thats a spacer... that will not cure your problem. Just change the stud.
Isn't that an adapter with the stud plate too?
HMFDZ28
05-30-2009, 05:15 PM
Am I explaining this right? I'm not the most mechanically inclined
I did replace the stud, it's stripped out....i pulled it in with a nut and it stripped...and now it's fuckng stuck LOL
They do sell oversized studs for that purpose. The threads are the right diameter but the part that goes into the hub is slightly larger.
Isn't that an adapter with the stud plate too?
Its not an Adapter... its part of the Axle.
chistoso
05-30-2009, 05:24 PM
Get an oversized stud, Stud.
Get an oversized stud, Stud.
I can't get that bastard off now.....the back of it just twists and I can't get a grip on it ...grr
BOSS
chistoso
05-30-2009, 05:33 PM
knock the fucker off with a hammer..
So this part circled in red doesn't come off to allow me to take the stud plate out and replace the stud plate with a new one like in the picture?
chistoso
05-30-2009, 05:36 PM
no. its part of the axle shaft. you should be able to knock it off with a hammer and pull it from behind the plate..
I just made a comment to my wife:
"Look how big my pipe is honey"
no. its part of the axle shaft. you should be able to knock it off with a hammer and pull it from behind the plate..
If there wasnt a lug attached I could....cant get a grip on it from behind
B
chistoso
05-30-2009, 05:40 PM
Did she laugh at you? Just kidding man..
Did she laugh at you? Just kidding man..
she smiled real big
chistoso
05-30-2009, 05:43 PM
If there wasnt a lug attached I could....cant get a grip on it from behind
B
Are we thinking of the same thing? What are you trying to acomplish here? I'm thinking you want to remove a stripped stud..
Are we thinking of the same thing? What are you trying to acomplish here? I'm thinking you want to remove a stripped stud..
I do want to remove it if I could but I can't man...tried to grab the back of the stud with grips, plumbers wrentch, pipe wrench..nothing will grab that bastard because the lug is on so tight
So that's why im wanting to take the whole stud plate off and replace it with a new one
b
chistoso
05-30-2009, 05:49 PM
Ok look, hit it with a hammer from the front and that should push it loose towards the back and then you should be able to pull it out from the back of the axle.
Ok look, hit it with a hammer from the front and that should push it loose towards the back and then you should be able to pull it out from the back of the axle.
Look at the pic again. There's a TIGHTENED FREAKING ASS nut attached that I was using to pull the stud into the stud plate my man
The back of the stud is smooth, no grip on the backside. I tried grabbing that sh!t with everything I got.
BOSS
chistoso
05-30-2009, 05:52 PM
PM sent
hapyspaz
05-30-2009, 06:39 PM
Just so you can see it, the part you are referring to is in fact part of the axle shaft.
http://nationaldrivetrain.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/736242XR.jpg
Couple of options to help you take that stud out:
Is the lug nut snugged up to the axle or do you have some room in between the washers/lug and the axle? If you have room, try to get a hack saw or drimmel in there and start chewing away at the stud.
Have you tried getting some vise grips on the front side of the stud to break the lug nut loose?
chistoso
05-30-2009, 07:50 PM
Hope you got it figured out big BOSS..
I just did....that mf came off and my ass is sweating! Went and bought some bigger grips, muscled that phkr onto the back of the stud and used my big breaker bar...BAM..it came off
Thanks for the pic of the axle, that make sense now - so I'd need a new axle if I couldn't get a bigger stud in..that's wonderful
BOSS
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Hope you got it figured out big BOSS..
I think all I needed was that pep talk on the phone...like a cheerleader you are, Chistoso
BOSS
Sepiroth
05-30-2009, 08:02 PM
Ok BOSS, where are you at now. Is the new stud in? Or is the old stud still in place?
Just so you can see it, the part you are referring to is in fact part of the axle shaft.
http://nationaldrivetrain.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/736242XR.jpg
Thanks for that man it makes sense now
Couple of options to help you take that stud out:
Is the lug nut snugged up to the axle or do you have some room in between the washers/lug and the axle? If you have room, try to get a hack saw or drimmel in there and start chewing away at the stud.
Have you tried getting some vise grips on the front side of the stud to break the lug nut loose?
Got a bigger vice grip(10) and beat that fuker onto the backside...then gave it a 208lb push on the breaker bar LOL
STILL, this whole thing was: :supergay:
Ok BOSS, where are you at now. Is the new stud in? Or is the old stud still in place?
Got it out finally...thank god. I have 12 front studs too, and they are slightly bigger than the rears. Maybe because of increased pressure and heat? I dunno but I'm going to try and fit one in that rear stud plate because it might be slightly bigger now ..not sure.
Thanks to all you jumped in to help a brotha...damn I love you guys :gayflag:
BOSS
HMFDZ28
05-31-2009, 12:56 AM
Loving the illistrations lol
chistoso
05-31-2009, 01:46 AM
I think all I needed was that pep talk on the phone...like a cheerleader you are, Chistoso
BOSS
:pepper::pepper:2, 4, 6, 8, who does BOSS appreciate...........:pepper::pepper:
:roflsquared::roflsquared:
Glad you got it down, show that tramp who's BOSS!!:evillol:
Would heating up the stud plate with a heat gun do any good in reinstalling a new stud? Would that weaken the stud plate?
My stud hole appears to be slightly bigger in that the original notches from the factory installed stud are not there inside the hole. So I was thinking maybe heating would expand the metal slightly and pull in the stud?
BOSS
chistoso
05-31-2009, 02:03 PM
That I dont know. I would assume heat would weaken the steel. If the hole is bigger than the stud Knurls you should get a bigger stud (the knurls)
Sepiroth
05-31-2009, 02:10 PM
Boos, heating the plate you are talking about with a heat gun will do absolutely nothing. IMHO it will not make it anywhere near hot enough.
Why cant you install an OEM like stud?
Boos, heating the plate you are talking about with a heat gun will do absolutely nothing. IMHO it will not make it anywhere near hot enough.
Why cant you install an OEM like stud?
I can install the OEM stud size, when I line it up it doesn't go straight in so I'll need to pull it in again which is a good thing - meaning the hole in the stud plate isn't too large or anything....
.. it's just that I'm weary of this shit having had it happen on me now, I'd hate to hear a clunk and watch my wheel fly by.
The OEM studs won't press all the way in, they only get about halfway into the stud plate with my cheater bar. I don't want to put anymore into the cheater bar for fear of this hapenning again to be honsest ....
???
BOSS
Sepiroth
05-31-2009, 02:19 PM
OK. Boss try this.
Use the lug nut youve been using, but turn it around. You want the flat side pressing onto the axle shaft. this will aid in pulling the stud in.
If that doesnt work, use 2 lug nuts but them together and then attempt to draw the stud in.
Take video if you can so i can see what youre doing.
OK. Boss try this.
Use the lug nut youve been using, but turn it around. You want the flat side pressing onto the axle shaft. this will aid in pulling the stud in.
If that doesnt work, use 2 lug nuts but them together and then attempt to draw the stud in.
Take video if you can so i can see what youre doing.
Werd....lemme get at it
BOSS
chistoso
05-31-2009, 02:27 PM
OK. Boss try this.
Use the lug nut youve been using, but turn it around. You want the flat side pressing onto the axle shaft. this will aid in pulling the stud in.
If that doesnt work, use 2 lug nuts but them together and then attempt to draw the stud in.
Take video if you can so i can see what youre doing.
This was gonna be my next response.
Crap I don't have an open ended 7/8..gotta go to sears!
BOSS
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If that doesnt work, use 2 lug nuts but them together and then attempt to draw the stud in.
Both backwards? Tighten one then the other??
B
Sepiroth
05-31-2009, 02:46 PM
Are you using a wrench. Man I hope not, if you are youre in for a world of hurt. Use a breaker bar and deep wall 7/8 socket.
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This was gonna be my next response.
Sure it was, lol.
chistoso
05-31-2009, 02:56 PM
I was minus the vidoe part. I noticed in the pic he had the nut in with the flange towrds the axle. should've run the flat side of the nut. It shouldn't take soo much pressure to pull these babies thru.
Sepiroth
05-31-2009, 02:59 PM
Thats how Ive always done em. But, I NEVER used a wrench to do so.
Thats how Ive always done em. But, I NEVER used a wrench to do so.
I'm about to get back to it in about 30mins..think I got it now with the flat side of the nut instead of a washer
B
Sepiroth
05-31-2009, 04:14 PM
I hope so mang! I'm all frustrated over here and I can imagine your frustration level.
I hope so mang! I'm all frustrated over here and I can imagine your frustration level.
All a brotha wanted to do was put his big ass wheels back on :(
BOSS
HMFDZ28
05-31-2009, 04:36 PM
you need washers, greese and the lug nut... granted I used to do it with my impact gun but you should be able to do it by hand also. you just need to reduce friction
Sepiroth
05-31-2009, 04:40 PM
lol, Your Z28 is gonna have a really BIG sister.
oops wrong video...will repost
HMFDZ28
05-31-2009, 07:35 PM
lol, Your Z28 is gonna have a really BIG sister.
You aint kiddin lol
oops wrong video...will repost
SUUUURRRREEEEE just get to the good part and well stay tuned for nexts weeks show... Man I hate network TV lol
Forgot to turn the camera off..it ends at almost 4mins unless you wanna see what a clean engine looks like :D
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BILLY MAYS HERE!!! Hope this helps someone!
BOSS
Sepiroth
05-31-2009, 10:35 PM
Good video. Finally you got it done. I wonder why the whole thing didnt go in?
Good video. Finally you got it done. I wonder why the whole thing didnt go in?
I think it would but damn if I'm gunna put more force on em...I thinks that's what caused me to strip that one out...dunno?
B
Sepiroth
05-31-2009, 10:46 PM
Yea what caused the other one to strip out was the use of the wrench and opposing forces. I mean you're trying to draw the stud in while at the same time trying to use the knurls as a hold down while twisting the lug nut on. Two forces and somethings gonna give.
IMHO, an impact and some air pressure would have made the job go way way easier. But, in a pinch, what are you gonna do.
It would be wise to not drive too far when you reinstall your wheels. Install your wheels then after about a days driving, but no more than 50 miles, check the torque of the lug nuts. Pay special attention to the studs you replaced.
What torque? 130-140??
Remember I have some "light weight" 24s :D
Sepiroth
06-01-2009, 12:07 AM
I go 100ft lbs.
Good video. Finally you got it done. I wonder why the whole thing didnt go in?
Figured it out BTW. You MUST use washers that will fit the entire length of the stud. The stud gets thicker at the end after the threads (see video) and the flat side of the nut almost can pull the stud through till that thick end starts poking through. What happens is the nut pushes up against the thick part of the stud coming through, and the thick part obviously has no threads but the nut gets stuck on the thick part before you thread out.
NOW I AM A STUD GURU LOL!!! :party33:
BOSS
---------- Post added at 04:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:55 PM ----------
Figured it out BTW. You MUST use washers that will fit the entire length of the stud. The stud gets thicker at the end after the threads (see video) and the flat side of the nut almost can pull the stud through till that thick end starts poking through. What happens is the nut pushes up against the thick part of the stud coming through, and the thick part obviously has no threads but the nut gets stuck on the thick part before you thread out.
NOW I AM A STUD GURU LOL!!! :party33:
BOSS
That is why I stripped one out btw...
B
blueflamed03
06-04-2009, 06:21 PM
man, your not kidding
that's one cool chair.
man, your not kidding
that's one cool chair.
Ya passerbys always wave and smile... :D
BOSS
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